Carly Lu’s Flight Blog

Carly made a new friend flying today, a Willet. They’re about 16″ high with long legs. She called to him repeatedly with a dog-calling type whistle while they were flying.

By the way, there are some amazing photographs of birds, especially shorebirds, at Morris’ site, Birds As Art

How do you find a source of training advice you can trust? Is the bird training world really as brutal as some make it out to be, wrought with conspiracies against individuals, professional jealousy, and continual arguing over methods? Who do you believe?

No one. That’s right, no one. All the highly respected trainers I have met or seen in action do not work in isolation. It’s not a huge community, and most bird trainers from zoos and shows know each other — the “degree of separation” probably averages 1 or 2. Attending the IAATE meeting in Cincinnati this year, the collegiality among trainers from different parts of the country — and the world — was even greater than I expected, and I learned as much from talking to people as I did from the talks. If there’s a conspiracy out there to shut out particular trainers, it must be super secret, because no one I’ve ever met knows about it. Or perhaps more likely is that you reap what you sow, and those who cultivate sound training practices, professional friendships and sharing of information earn that respect.

Avoid: Sites [trainers] that lack any references or affiliation to other materials and professionals known in the field. Established professionals usually work together in a cooperative and/or collaborative way with other recognized professionals. This usually includes references to other sources of information and products on their sites in addition to their own. — Barbara Heidenreich, Good Bird Blog

Observing the trainers I have learned the most from, it’s also striking that they rarely toot their own horns, claim to be “the best,” or that they are the only one to ever do this or that. They do not make promises about training outcomes, or take ownership of established methods by branding them as their own. Training is a science, and like other sciences, is built on what has come before. Good practitioners recognize this. “Revolutionary” is pretty much reserved for those exercise machines advertised late at night on infomercials. The art and science of training is an ongoing learning process that takes patience. It really is true that “the more you know, the more you know you don’t know.” Anyone who believes they don’t need to learn more is only at the outer layer of a very large onion. (To paraphrase Donkey.)

Continued education, and close mentorship with respected, well-known professionals in the field is paramount. . . . Courtesy, reliability, and accuracy are also trademarks of the “expert”, as is willingness to share freely their knowledge. — Animal Education Foundation

These are some things I ask about trainers:

• Can they give you good references? If not, run, don’t walk. Expert trainers work with others and never stop learning, whether it is through informal relationships or formal collaborations. Any good trainer should be able to provide several names of professional trainers who can vouch for their ability. Talk to them, and ask them about the other references as well. Is this trainer someone who has really made a difference?
• How do they care for their own animals? Do they know about mental and environmental enrichment, and practice it? Do they feed a balanced and varied diet that includes fresh food? A good deal of training is about relationship building and general standards of care — what happens outside the training session does matter.
• Is there a strong emphasis on fast and/or easy? This is typically an indicator of exaggeration, a shallow understanding of training principles, or over-reliance on weight management.
• Who have they learned the most from? Who has had the biggest influence on their training, and why? Can they recommend to you a few other good sources of training information? Every single trainer I know who is respected among their peers can and will refer you to others that you can learn from as well. While it’s good to work with a single trainer on specific problems to avoid giving mixed signals to your birds, any good mentor will encourage learning as much as you can from other sources they trust.

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With the internet there is the possibility of sharing information now as never before, but it also opens up the door to just about anyone who wants to call themselves an expert. The cream of the crop among trainers are those that can convey more than just instructions; they demonstrate the principles they are teaching in every interaction with birds. It’s a rare gift, but well worth seeking out those who have it.

I just got back from a 6 day trip, and when Carly was younger she was so unfazed by me leaving that I seriously wondered if it mattered at all that I was gone.  But since she started seasonal feather snipping at 3 years old she has also been snipping when under stress.   Her seasonal snipping was reduced to almost nothing with the help of lots and lots of foraging (for most all her food) as well as lupron shots every 4-6 weeks during the spring.  Since then her feathers have been growing back in nicely, with just a few exceptions, all of which are stress-related: me leaving town for a week (twice), and the death of another pet in the household.

This is her at her worst, after I was away for a week at the IAATE meeting in February; she stayed at Tex’s house with a pet sitter and did a lot of feather damage, both snipping and plucking.

The next snipping event occurred in mid-April, after she had stopped for about 6 weeks. It lasted 36 hours, starting the evening my vet came to the house to put my cat to sleep (after battle with lymphoma). This was such a short duration and intense bout of snipping it’s hard to see it as coincidental.

When Grace and Roelant visited at the beginning of June, many feathers had molted out and were starting to grow back in. That continued through July and into August.

She was a velcro bird when I was packing for my last trip, and for the first time gave me an enthusiastic greeting when I arrived home (instead of the cold shoulder). The snipping is not as bad as before on the belly, but she did crunch her upper wing feathers quite a lot.

During both trips she was with Piper, with lots and lots of foraging material. The latest trip she stayed at home, with familiar people taking care of her, and her snipping started the third day, immediately upon hearing me talk to her over speaker phone. (Note to self…. ) She had already been behaving oddly, including hanging upside down rubbing her back on the cage, even with the door open; something she’s never done in front of me.

Since I’ve been home she hasn’t touched a single feather except for normal preening, and is carefully de-sheathing some newly grown feathers.

It was nice back when she didn’t notice I was gone! I’m not sure what can be done to make these trips less stressful. Perhaps a few short overnighters to break the routine that every time I leave it’s for a week. But then when it gets to be day 3, day 4 on a longer trip…? I wonder if it’s possible to train an alternate behavior for stress relief.

Before restarting outside with the harness on Piper I want to build up a strong history of positive experiences. So in this phase I’m doing our usual indoor recalls with it on, giving bonus treats, and giving him dinner while wearing it.

If he happens to have a bad experience outside or gets spooked, I don’t want there to be such a strong association between outdoors and harness that he doesn’t want to put it back on.

A very different training experience than with Carly. She was calmer outside from day one, so there was very little risk of anything associated with the outdoors becoming an aversive.

This is not from day one, but day two, after coming home at age 4 months. In the background is the rest of the gang, Fergus the cat at right, Moby my homing pigeon walking on the path at the left, and Ripley the dog in the center (over Carly’s head).

* No, she is not on any kind of restraint here. She was always so calm and stuck to me it never even occurred to me that she should be on a harness (at the time I didn’t even know such a thing existed). She was also given an extremely severe clip at the store, so she literally couldn’t fly, period. In a very stiff wind it might have been possible, but we don’t get much of that here so it was easy to avoid. As her wings started to grow out, and before I learned about training, I was very fortunate that she was never inclined to take off.

For more information about using a harness, see the Complete Harness Training Series of blog posts.

Piper had his first exam at the vet today, and the doctor said he looked a little fat. I didn’t think that could be true, since he is barely over his newly-weaned weight from a year ago, but he thought he looked a bit chubby around the pectoral area. Then when he got to the physical exam he felt Piper’s chest and said, “Ah, muscles!”

He has said before that he rarely sees birds who fly enough to have developed pecs. Kind of sad that even a good, experienced avian vet sees muscles so seldom that he doesn’t recognize them by sight.

During the exam and nail trimming Piper did a stunning performance of non-stop growling, in between flying loops around the office. Carly went first, and acted (as usual) like she goes there for social visits every day.

Since comments about my recall blog post on chat lists have descended to criticism by insinuation, here are a few clarifications.

Annie

What Annie has to do with anything is beyond me. Annie was Hugh’s bird, not “ours”, and he did the training with her, not me. We never trained each others’ birds for freeflying. Ever. We felt it was best when flying where it was very crowded if they were totally focused on one person. We also had different training styles, and disagreed on some things, including some aspects of Annie’s training.

If anyone really cares about what happened to her, why has no one ever asked any of the people directly involved? What I can say is that she was returned to Wendy Craig not because of problems flying, but because with 5 large birds in a 1-BR apt, her presence was very disruptive. She was aggressive to Gizmo and Carly, and Otis was plucking her head bare. She loves Wendy more than anyone else in the world, and the three of us struggled discussing that decision for a long time. I think she is where she is happiest, and that was really the bottom line. In the end it was Hugh’s decision, and I think he made the right one under the circumstances.

Personally, it makes no difference to me if my birds learn to free fly or not. I take it on their own terms, and help them learn as much as they can. I just want the best life for them, and want them to be able to enjoy being outdoors. Unlike Carly and Otis, who are avid flyers, from what I observed Annie was actually the most animated and relaxed when at home eating and chatting. The bird’s welfare is the most important factor, not the freeflyer’s desire for sport. That is why I say, “train the bird you have.” Not necessarily for freeflight, unless you and the bird are both well prepared for it, but for exercise and enjoyment in general, whether it’s at home, in an aviary, or on an outing in a harness.

The obsession with free-flying I think misses the main point of why most parrot owners want to look into allowing flight: to enrich their birds’ lives. Companion parrot owners don’t dismiss birds to live on the back lot because they don’t live up to their sporting expectations.

Comments

Blog comments are were* indeed moderated. Anyone who has ever had a blog knows how many dozen spam comments sometimes come in daily, advertising everything from viagra to porn sites. Moderating is the only way to prevent everything from going directly onto my site. Most blog sites are moderated specifically for this reason. I will look into improved spam-filtering products.

ALL comments submitted to my blog that are not spam or sales pitches are posted and/or replied to unless the author is actively promoting a dangerous or fraudulent product. In some cases the comments become a new blog post of their own. Some chat list comments on my blog and the silliness over “peer review” are so laughable I have quoted them on my blog myself.

What I do not welcome, and why I do not participate in the FF list, is the endless, circular, rehashed arguments month after month, and year after year, and the very low remarks made even by the moderator to very reasonable, seasoned trainers like Chris Shank (he levels the accusation that killing birds is one of her training alternatives if they don’t “cooperate.”) I submit many of my ideas and posts to professional trainers for review, but I am selective about whose advice I seek. It is a waste of my time to solicit comments from fringe trainers whose ideas almost the entire professional training community rejects. That’s also why I don’t solicit input from Joe Krathwohl. Professionally that’s why I don’t put ads up on Craigslist to get advice on interpreting ocean currents.

As for peer review, any scientist knows that a conference presentation is not peer reviewed. The conference organizers look at ideas on abstracts and decide if it looks interesting enough to warrant including. IAATE does not endorse presenters or presentation material at their conferences, the same as any scientific conference, and they state that on their web site.

I rarely comment on anything from chat lists, but because my blog feed is linked on a site of someone who was following “recall optional” advice and coming very close to losing a bird, I made an exception.

We will now resume our normally broadcast blogging.

*UPDATE: Moderation has been turned off, spam filters on, we’ll see how it goes.

It was exactly 3 years ago today that Carly did her first jump-flap off the counter onto my arm. Even with all our other flying adventures, it’s still the most memorable event. I don’t know who was more excited, me or her!

Here she is a couple weeks later (and a few cell phone cameras ago!) practicing. You can barely see here, but she has only 2 or 3 flight feathers on each side.

She was so eager to practice every day that when we were finished she’d often leave her dinner to come back and do more. Contrafreeloading in action!

I think she likes this stuff.

Carly doing a vertical “paratrooper drop” landing at the beach. Photo © Hillary Hankey 2009.

Of course we’re celebrating this afternoon by…. going to the beach.

For an article on techniques to try to help previously clipped birds take this first step, see the current issue (Summer 2009) of Good Bird Magazine where Mandy Andrea has an article on teaching the mature bird.

One of the nice things about warm summer evenings here are the beach sunsets. I noticed a woman photographing us for quite a while yesterday, and it turns out she’s a travel photographer, Diane Marinos, who lives nearby and is doing a personal series on Scripps Pier in all of the varying light and weather conditions. Should be a great series — its so changeable here with the fog and cloud banks, crystal clear Santa Ana winds, etc.

I had been only training Piper up above the beach where he was more comfortable. He got spooked too much down below when on his harness, so I decided to take it more slowly. Now he sits on top of my head and sings and whistles and gets treats, while Carly goes on flights. Yesterday she was mostly interested in hanging out and watching the sunset. Very relaxing for all of us.

I started flying Carly at the beach once she started to show an interest — by spreading out her wings and kind of bouncing back and forth. The behavior I observed from Piper earlier this year was entirely different — neck outstretched, occasionally attempting to do a startle flight. This is not the behavior of a bird that wants to fly for the fun of it; it’s the behavior of a bird who is afraid. So now that he’s getting more acclimated I’ll start doing some harness training down on the beach and take it from there.

I was talking to Wendy last week about something I’ve been pondering while Piper is in training. And that is, if he’s not eager to go outside, gets spooked, and on top of that there are lots of risks inherent in outdoor flying — why push it? I haven’t been, but occasionally I think about what our long term plan should be. And really, it’s the same as it was with Carly: I’ll take it as far as he’s comfortable with. He doesn’t like to be left in the office when we go out to the beach, so I thought it was worthwhile to give him the opportunity to acclimate to being out there on a harness. He flies to the door often when I have the leash in hand now, so it’s clear he isn’t reluctant to go outside. And if whistling and talking are any indication of being relaxed and happy, I’d say it was worth it. Now we’ll just see where to go next.

The second photo looks like Piper and I have smoke streaming out of our heads. LOL. Carly must be off flying in this one.

Photographs © 2009 Diane Marinos.

There is a lot of good information on the web about parrot behavior, training and care. I’m going to try to give a shout-out to a site or blog that people may not know about every so often. The more we can learn from each other the better!

This is one I just discovered myself recently (thanks Sid) and it is full of well thought out posts that are grounded in a background of Applied Behavior Analysis, focusing on providing enrichment, empowerment and choice in our relationship with our birds. The author, Robin Cherkas, features her own flock and their amazing “fort” set-up in her blog.

Living with Parrots Cage Free

The most recent entry, Deal or No Deal, starts, “Each day I contemplate ways to give Coco choices, whether seemingly small or large. . . .” How cool is that?

I’m trying to figure out a way to upscale Fort Coco into a full size Fort Raz. People need forts too. Yep.

This should be easier.   http://CarlyLusFightBlog.com

I think all the old links are redirecting to the new address.  You may have to renew the RSS feed if you have one.

(For those who never knew, “likambo” is the word in the Congo language of Lingala for “trouble.”)